[Bestplus] Clarification, please

Dori McCormack dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu
Tue Oct 25 12:35:28 EDT 2005


Me too.

Dori
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lee Haller 
  To: Espindola, Annemarie ; iris.broudy at SDH.state.ma.us ; Carey_Reid at worlded.org ; JaneS at doe.mass.edu ; BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us ; Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [Bestplus] Clarification, please


  Iris's and Annemarie's understanding of this situation is also the same as my understanding.  That's what I do.

  Lee

  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: Espindola, Annemarie [mailto:aespindo at bristol.mass.edu]
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:46 AM
  >To: iris.broudy at SDH.state.ma.us, Carey_Reid at worlded.org, JaneS at doe.mass.edu, 
  >BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us, Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] Clarification, please
  >
  >Hi Everyone,
  >I think Iris has it right.
  >That is my understanding of 
  >how those situations are to 
  >be handled.
  >Annemarie 
  >
  >
  >Annemarie Espindola
  >SABES Southeast
  >Bristol Community College
  >Room L-107
  >Fall River, MA 02720
  >(508) 678-2811 ext. 2782
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: iris.broudy at SDH.state.ma.us [mailto:iris.broudy at SDH.state.ma.us] 
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:34 AM
  >To: Carey_Reid at worlded.org; JaneS at doe.mass.edu;
  >BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us; Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] Clarification, please
  >
  >Hi all,
  >
  >My practice always has been that if the student repeats a word with
  >questioning intonation to check understanding, and the word is correct,
  >I simply nod or say yes, then wait for an answer (giving a 2 for LC if
  >the answer is appropriate). It wasn't my understanding that the word
  >needs to be repeated by the administrator. 
  >
  >However, if the student repeats a word to check understanding and the
  >word is not correct, then I repeat the whole question one time. Then,
  >of course, the highest score that could be assigned for LC is a 1. 
  >
  >What have you all been doing?
  >
  >Iris
  >
  >
  >Iris L. Broudy
  >ESOL Instructor/Programs Dept.
  >Hampden County Sheriff's Department
  >627 Randall Road
  >Ludlow, MA 01056
  >(413) 547-8000 ext. 2468
  >Fax: (413) 583-3099
  >iris.broudy at sdh.state.ma.us
  >
  >
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: Carey Reid [mailto:Carey_Reid at worlded.org]
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:36 AM
  >To: JaneS at doe.mass.edu; BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us;
  >Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] Clarification, please
  >
  >
  >You know, Betty, I've never been comfortable with that word-check
  >option. I think it kind of muddies the process, much like giving credit
  >for communication if you happen to know non-English words a student uses
  >in a reply. I'd vote for a hard-line policy of always repeating the
  >entire question and assigning a score of 1 at best and O if the repeat
  >doesn't help the student. Longer questions would be a drag to repeat,
  >but I haven't run into all that many check-in situations to make the
  >repeating a serious hardship. I think this approach would also bring us
  >all in line with the TAGs, in the section you've noted. But, I'd be
  >curious to know what others think. 
  >
  >Carey.
  >
  >>>> "Stone, Betty" <BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us> 10/24/05 6:06 PM >>>
  >To my BEST Friends,
  > 
  >I was reviewing my notes from our 9/16 refresher and wanted to clarify
  >this:
  > 
  >Per the TAG and past practice, we repeat the entire question one time
  >(without rephrasing or explaining) if the examinee doesn't understand,
  >asks for repetition or clarification.
  > 
  >I have in my notes that if the student does a self-check (e.g.
  >..."employee?") we should repeat only the word. This also seems to make
  >sense and follows what was past practice in administration, though I
  >don't see that explicitly in the TAG. 
  > 
  >QUESTION: I noted that I should look at the new TAG for a change in
  >administration--and I see only the section on the top of page II-3. That
  >section doesn't refer to self-checks, only full repetitions. 
  > 
  >All that is different in the NEW TAG is an explicit instruction to enter
  >0-0-0 after no response to a repeated question. Am I right on this? Just
  >the explicit 0-0-0 is new, not any other change.
  > 
  >Thanks, all,
  >Betty
  > 
  >Betty J. Stone
  >ESOL Program Administrator
  >SCALE - Somerville Center for Adult Learning Experiences
  >167 Holland Street
  >Somerville, MA 02144
  >Tel: 617-625-6600, Ext. 6933
  >FAX: 617-623-8528
  >Email: bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us <mailto:bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us>
  >
  >
  >________________________________
  >
  >From: Stone, Betty
  >Sent: Tue 10/18/2005 3:08 PM
  >To: Espindola, Annemarie; Dori McCormack; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
  >Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
  >
  >
  >Nice hustle, everyone. It's great to see that there is reliable back-up
  >in case of emergencies. 
  >Take care, and I hope everyone feels better soon.
  >Betty
  > 
  >Betty J. Stone
  >ESOL Program Administrator
  >SCALE - Somerville Center for Adult Learning Experiences
  >167 Holland Street
  >Somerville, MA 02144
  >Tel: 617-625-6600, Ext. 6933
  >FAX: 617-623-8528
  >Email: bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us <mailto:bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us>
  >
  >
  >________________________________
  >
  >From: bestplus-bounces at lists.literacytent.org on behalf of Espindola,
  >Annemarie
  >Sent: Tue 10/18/2005 2:31 PM
  >To: Dori McCormack; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
  >Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org 
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
  >
  >
  >
  >Great!
  >
  >Annemarie Espindola
  >SABES Southeast
  >Bristol Community College
  >Room L-107
  >Fall River, MA 02720
  >(508) 678-2811 ext. 2782
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: Dori McCormack [mailto:dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu] 
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:29 PM
  >To: Espindola, Annemarie; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
  >Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org 
  >Subject: Re: [Bestplus] HELP!
  >
  >You're right, Annemarie. Ellen is doing the training (I guess
  >Richard,
  >in
  >his drugged stupor, forgot to mention that to me). And Kevin O'Conner
  >is
  >able and willing to come in the afternoon to help her out.
  >So, we're all set.
  >
  >Thanks everybody (especially Kevin)!
  >
  >Dori
  >
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Espindola, Annemarie" <aespindo at bristol.mass.edu>
  >To: "Dori McCormack" <dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu>; "Schwerdtfeger, Jane"
  ><JaneS at doe.mass.edu>; <Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org>
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:30 PM
  >Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
  >
  >
  >Hi Dori,
  >I was under the impression that Ellen Crevison was doing the training
  >with him.
  >She is terrific but in a training that size a second facilitator is
  >needed. I'm not available
  >But if someone else is, you'll find Ellen easy to work with.
  >Annemarie
  >
  >Annemarie Espindola
  >SABES Southeast
  >Bristol Community College
  >Room L-107
  >Fall River, MA 02720
  >(508) 678-2811 ext. 2782
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: Dori McCormack [mailto:dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu] 
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM
  >To: Schwerdtfeger, Jane; Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org 
  >Subject: [Bestplus] HELP!
  >
  >Hello BEST Plus Trainers,
  >
  >We're having a bit of a BEST Plus crisis and need your help ASAP.
  >
  >Richard Rakobane is supposed to give a BEST Plus training tomorrow
  >(9-4:00)
  >at UMASS Boston, BUT he is very sick (Nothing life-threatening, but
  >something very painful and requiring mind-mushing pain-killers), and
  >he
  >cannot do the training.
  >
  >Is there anyone out there who could do it?
  >
  > Please get back to me ASAP if you can.
  >
  >Thank you!!!!
  >
  >Dori McCormack
  >>
  >
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