[Bestplus] Clarification, please
mdoyle@lawrence.k12.ma.us
mdoyle at lawrence.k12.ma.us
Tue Oct 25 11:51:07 EDT 2005
Hi Folks,
I concur with Iris. My understanding of a student looking for
clarification (to verify their understanding of the question/word) is that
this is a question that the examiner could respond with a nod or a yes. I
believe in the training video, it is handled in this way. If the entire
question needs repeating, then I score a 1 for LC. I'm not comfortable
scoring a 1 if a student is repeating a word in a questioning manner to
assure that he/she heard it correctly. As native English speakers, I think
we all do this occasionally. And in some instances, I believe it is a
thinking mechanism for some people, not a misunderstanding of the question.
I know I've been guilty of this last point - kind of thinking aloud.
Perhaps this is why CAL allowed for this request for clarification
scenario.
Marilyn
iris.broudy at SDH.s
tate.ma.us
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RE: [Bestplus] Clarification,
please
Hi all,
My practice always has been that if the student repeats a word with
questioning intonation to check understanding, and the word is correct, I
simply nod or say yes, then wait for an answer (giving a 2 for LC if the
answer is appropriate). It wasn't my understanding that the word needs to
be repeated by the administrator.
However, if the student repeats a word to check understanding and the word
is not correct, then I repeat the whole question one time. Then, of
course,
the highest score that could be assigned for LC is a 1.
What have you all been doing?
Iris
Iris L. Broudy
ESOL Instructor/Programs Dept.
Hampden County Sheriff's Department
627 Randall Road
Ludlow, MA 01056
(413) 547-8000 ext. 2468
Fax: (413) 583-3099
iris.broudy at sdh.state.ma.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Carey Reid [mailto:Carey_Reid at worlded.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:36 AM
To: JaneS at doe.mass.edu; BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us;
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Subject: RE: [Bestplus] Clarification, please
You know, Betty, I've never been comfortable with that word-check
option. I think it kind of muddies the process, much like giving credit
for communication if you happen to know non-English words a student uses
in a reply. I'd vote for a hard-line policy of always repeating the
entire question and assigning a score of 1 at best and O if the repeat
doesn't help the student. Longer questions would be a drag to repeat,
but I haven't run into all that many check-in situations to make the
repeating a serious hardship. I think this approach would also bring us
all in line with the TAGs, in the section you've noted. But, I'd be
curious to know what others think.
Carey.
>>> "Stone, Betty" <BStone at k12.somerville.ma.us> 10/24/05 6:06 PM >>>
To my BEST Friends,
I was reviewing my notes from our 9/16 refresher and wanted to clarify
this:
Per the TAG and past practice, we repeat the entire question one time
(without rephrasing or explaining) if the examinee doesn't understand,
asks for repetition or clarification.
I have in my notes that if the student does a self-check (e.g.
..."employee?") we should repeat only the word. This also seems to make
sense and follows what was past practice in administration, though I
don't see that explicitly in the TAG.
QUESTION: I noted that I should look at the new TAG for a change in
administration--and I see only the section on the top of page II-3. That
section doesn't refer to self-checks, only full repetitions.
All that is different in the NEW TAG is an explicit instruction to
enter 0-0-0 after no response to a repeated question. Am I right on
this? Just the explicit 0-0-0 is new, not any other change.
Thanks, all,
Betty
Betty J. Stone
ESOL Program Administrator
SCALE - Somerville Center for Adult Learning Experiences
167 Holland Street
Somerville, MA 02144
Tel: 617-625-6600, Ext. 6933
FAX: 617-623-8528
Email: bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us <mailto:bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us>
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From: Stone, Betty
Sent: Tue 10/18/2005 3:08 PM
To: Espindola, Annemarie; Dori McCormack; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
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Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
Nice hustle, everyone. It's great to see that there is reliable back-up
in case of emergencies.
Take care, and I hope everyone feels better soon.
Betty
Betty J. Stone
ESOL Program Administrator
SCALE - Somerville Center for Adult Learning Experiences
167 Holland Street
Somerville, MA 02144
Tel: 617-625-6600, Ext. 6933
FAX: 617-623-8528
Email: bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us <mailto:bstone at K12.somerville.ma.us>
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From: bestplus-bounces at lists.literacytent.org on behalf of Espindola,
Annemarie
Sent: Tue 10/18/2005 2:31 PM
To: Dori McCormack; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
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Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
Great!
Annemarie Espindola
SABES Southeast
Bristol Community College
Room L-107
Fall River, MA 02720
(508) 678-2811 ext. 2782
-----Original Message-----
From: Dori McCormack [mailto:dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Espindola, Annemarie; Schwerdtfeger, Jane;
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Subject: Re: [Bestplus] HELP!
You're right, Annemarie. Ellen is doing the training (I guess
Richard,
in
his drugged stupor, forgot to mention that to me). And Kevin O'Conner
is
able and willing to come in the afternoon to help her out.
So, we're all set.
Thanks everybody (especially Kevin)!
Dori
----- Original Message -----
From: "Espindola, Annemarie" <aespindo at bristol.mass.edu>
To: "Dori McCormack" <dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu>; "Schwerdtfeger, Jane"
<JaneS at doe.mass.edu>; <Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Bestplus] HELP!
Hi Dori,
I was under the impression that Ellen Crevison was doing the training
with him.
She is terrific but in a training that size a second facilitator is
needed. I'm not available
But if someone else is, you'll find Ellen easy to work with.
Annemarie
Annemarie Espindola
SABES Southeast
Bristol Community College
Room L-107
Fall River, MA 02720
(508) 678-2811 ext. 2782
-----Original Message-----
From: Dori McCormack [mailto:dmccormack at hcc.mass.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM
To: Schwerdtfeger, Jane; Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
Subject: [Bestplus] HELP!
Hello BEST Plus Trainers,
We're having a bit of a BEST Plus crisis and need your help ASAP.
Richard Rakobane is supposed to give a BEST Plus training tomorrow
(9-4:00)
at UMASS Boston, BUT he is very sick (Nothing life-threatening, but
something very painful and requiring mind-mushing pain-killers), and
he
cannot do the training.
Is there anyone out there who could do it?
Please get back to me ASAP if you can.
Thank you!!!!
Dori McCormack
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