[Bestplus] Scoring question

[Schwerdtfeger, Jane]

That makes sense, to me, but picture questions are weighted very low on the
difficulty scale, so even a 3 or a 2 on a picture question wouldn't be
weighted much overall on the entire test.  In some ways I can see how this
question could be scored a 2-1-3.  I sent this question to Carol to see what
she has to say.  I'll send it to Lynda as well, since I think Carol is out
on Thursdays, and Dori, Carey and I have trianings on Friday--which Murphy's
law being what it is, someone will ask this very question!
 
Jane

-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Stone [mailto:bjstone13 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:47 PM
To: Betty Stone; Brown, Teresa; Bestplus at lists.literacytent.org
Subject: Re: [Bestplus] Scoring question


Hmmm.... Good points, Dori. Waiting for more comments....
Betty

Betty Stone <bjstone13 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Teresa,
 
Great question, and even greater to have a chance to chat about it BEFORE
the big September push.
My gut inclination is to score a 1 for Communication based on the need to
"fill in" the entire thought the student might be trying to express. Without
a little more meat (I know we score the main course in this area in
Complexity) the communication is quite ambiguous: Does the woman want to buy
eggs, is she holding eggs, and so on. On the other hand, a rudimentary
phrase "buying eggs" or even "buy eggs" intoned as a phrase vs. a list of
words: "woman, eggs, buy," would push me to a 2 in Communication.
 
Can't wait to hear what the rest of you think!  We are sooooo lucky to have
a sharing group to process these questions. In my trainings I tried to
encourage people to create chat groups at their agencies so they could
brainstorm scoring issues.  
 
Betty

"Brown, Teresa" <teresa at CambridgeMA.GOV> wrote:

Hi everyone, 

I have a question about Communication scores for the very low level ESOL
students. When we say "Tell me about this picture," some students look at it
and just give some nouns, or maybe a verb, for example, "eggs, woman,
store", or "car, truck, drive". The words are perfectly comprehensible and
accurate, but there's nothing in our training that explains how to score it.
There aren't any hesitations, but the answers aren't enough of a phrase to
be 'everyday' English (i.e. In response to a question, "with my friends" got
a 3 for Communication).

Are you all scoring these kinds of replies a 2? or a 1? I think this
question will come up more in September than June, so I'd like for all our
teachers to be consistent from the start.

Thanks for your help,

Teresa Brown
ESOL Coordinator
Community Learning Center
19 Brookline Street, Cambridge, MA 02139


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