[AAACE-NLA] Reply to Debbie Yoho in 51-6

Merle Ayres merleayres at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 22 12:10:27 EDT 2007


Nancy and all: Very good comments and explanations. I am just getting some 
ESL going and its hard but moving forward. I think life long learning is a 
good goal. If education and adult learning is economic then its looked as a 
line item to deal with other priorities such as dike building, roads. 
bridges etc. Many rewards do not come instantly when learning reaches a 
certain point, it may be later on in life where it bears fruit.
I think unity of educators is a worthy goal for adult literacy advocates and 
it takes a long time for legislatures to buy into it. In Iowa I feel we have 
good advocates speaking to the legislature only because we keep them up to 
speed on issues that are important to educators , librarians and concerned 
citizens.


Merle Ayres
412 8th st. North
Humboldt,Iowa 50548
Tel.1-515-332-4630
Fax 515-332-1738





>From: Nancy Hansen <sfallsliteracy at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: sfallsliteracy at yahoo.com,National Literacy Advocacy List 
>sponsored by AAACE<aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org>
>To: National Literacy Advocacy List sponsored by 
>AAACE<aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org>
>Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Reply to Debbie Yoho in 51-6
>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:20:51 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dear Kevin and other subscribers:
>
>   You know, there's too little time/too much to say.  But I must speak to 
>a couple of points you made in this post.  I'm giving my best brief shot, 
>Kevin.
>
>   I took some of your message personally.  Are you a researcher?  For how 
>long?  Do you have a hands-on relationship of some sort or other with the 
>clientele you said come from "socioeconomic realities of race, class, and 
>gender" categories?  In other words, do you really know them?
>
>   You wrote:
>   << I would just like to broaden the focus a bit: Debbie rightly points 
>out that “business interests succeeded in highjacking the adult education 
>agenda and recasting it as an ’investment’”, but I would also argue that we 
>in adult education bear some responsibility, since we went along with it. 
> >>
>
>   My comments come from long-term literacy administration involvement in 
>the literacy field and I feel you are so wrong in saying that "we in adult 
>education bear some responsibility, since we went along with it."  Not I!  
>I did not "go along" with any of the changes that occurred.
>
>   I have hands-on contact with these folks ... you know, the ones whose 
>lower socioeconomic status and class designations leave more doors closed 
>than open?  The ones whom need advocates to break down the wall and open 
>the windows to opportunities??  Administrators like Deborah and I had the 
>transition to the "highjacking (of) ... adult education" shoved down our 
>throats.  We did not willingly "go along with it".  Far larger/heftier 
>powers out there than us -- the small program administrators, who were 
>doing the best job we could with the lot we've been dealt -- made that 
>decision and told us to live with it.
>
>   I saw it coming.  When adult literacy was going to be tied to workforce 
>funding, I heard the bell ring a death knell for adult literacy skill 
>development, for believing that building life skills where reading and 
>writing were truly "just the basics" for the learners served.  There is 
>power in funding.  When there is inadequate funding?  There's less power to 
>have an impact on any decision that is made.
>
>   You wrote:
>   << Adult Ed has bought in to the argument that its justification is an 
>economic one. It’s a case of live by the sword and die by the sword ... >>
>
>   Were any one of us, who are in service to the very lowest skilled 
>learner, ever given the opportunity to offer any sort of input otherwise, 
>to anyBODY who gave a rip or had the power to influence the proposed 
>changes???  Not here anyway.  I'll let Deborah speak to whether or not 
>input was allowed from HER, related to justifying the change to be for the 
>sake of economics.  I have never "echoed the argument that education is an 
>economic benefit to the public good".  Who exactly HAS done that?
>
>   I did give way to the forces, in their steel-plated armor, who didn't 
>give a darn if the beginning reader would be affected by their projected 
>changes. The Powers made the changes anyhow.  Our agency continued to serve 
>the best we could, with the resources we had.  We did not foresake our 
>learners.  However, a lot who died by the sword succumbed to more dramatic 
>"deaths" than I did.  At least I AM STILL HERE!
>
>   Kevin, the sad part is it's the adult learners who are wounded and not 
>being served now who are the victims.  Researcher Thomas Sticht regularly 
>pens the question" "Where are the learners now?  The statistics are low."  
>The adults are still there. The needy just aren't being served.  They have 
>just become more invisible than ever.  We (Deb and I) never took 
>responsibility and chose this for our men and women students.  I will not 
>own that choice!
>
>   << Those of us who work as adult educators and researchers need to move 
>beyond the market rhetoric. Ours is a field bent on social justice, and we 
>need to reclaim the moral imperative for lifelong education as a universal 
>right. >>
>
>   And ... how exactly, Kevin, are we, of a field that is so 'done in by 
>the armored sword bearers' to "reclaim the moral imperative"???  Where is 
>our power?  As dyslectic reader Archie Willard asked on this NLA listserv, 
>who is speaking for adult learners in that place where power matters?  
>(NOTE:  Not one NLA subscriber had an ANSWER for this reader leader?!)  
>It's easy to say, standing from the outside looking in, that reading and 
>lifelong education is a "universal right", but how does that happen?  Where 
>is the power that will cause that change to occur?
>
>   I believe that the rug has been pulled from under the CBO's around the 
>nation - not of their choosing, but because the Powers could do it.  I 
>think there are folks in the adult ed field who still believe in the 
>advocacy of building life skills, to improve the quality of life of adults 
>without reading fluency and the skills to communicate.
>
>   I'm of the opinion that we were powerless to stand against the soldiers 
>who plowed into the literacy field in their steel armor heavily armed to 
>kill.
>
>On my wall, I have this message sent to me by another adult learner, Harry 
>Seda of New York state, that reminds me why I am still here:
>
>   Learning to do,
>   Doing to learn,
>   Learning to live,
>   Living to serve.
>   Yours for literacy,
>
>   Nancy Hansen
>   Sioux Falls Area Literacy Council
>   sfallsliteracy at yahoo.com
>
>
>Kevin O'Connor <OCONNOHJ at bc.edu> wrote:
>   Dear colleagues,
>
>I would like to follow up on Debbie Yoho’s post in Volume 51(6). It was an 
>excellent and insightful analysis into the role that neoliberal 
>globalization plays in the current state of adult education. I would just 
>like to broaden the focus a bit: Debbie rightly points out that “business 
>interests succeeded in highjacking the adult education agenda and recasting 
>it as an ’investment’”, but I would also argue that we in adult education 
>bear some responsibility, since we went along with it.
>
>Adult Ed has bought in to the argument that its justification is an 
>economic one. It’s a case of live by the sword and die by the sword: we 
>have echoed the argument that education is an economic benefit to the 
>public good, and now we are locked into the cold logic of the neoliberal 
>cost-benefit argument, an this argument makes aspects of a truly liberatory 
>socially just educational dialogue impossible.
>
>As Michael Apple pointed out, “Neoliberalism transforms our very idea of 
>democracy, making it only an economic concept, not a political one” (2006). 
>This market model replaces the concept of democracy, with its focuses on 
>the goals of the community, with an economic concept whose focus is solely 
>the choices of the individual. It assumes that the sum of individual goals 
>will sum to a pursuit for the general welfare, and it takes for granted 
>that each person strives in a supposedly equal race.
>
>But all individuals do not have an equal chance in this race; the erroneous 
>conflation of capitalism with democracy overlooks the socioeconomic 
>realities of race, class, and gender: “Looking at education as part of the 
>mechanism of market exchange makes crucial aspects literally invisible, 
>thereby preventing critique before it even starts” (Apple, 2006). The 
>market model deraces, declasses and degenders and calls it fair. Yet equal 
>treatment for all is not fair; it ignores institutional and social 
>prejudice and the ways that racism and sexism systematically exclude women 
>and minority groups from truly equal participation.
>
>Co-opting the rhetoric of the economic Right wing was a tactic that won 
>additional funding, but it is a strategy that will cost adult basic 
>education in the end, as it (and perhaps much public higher education) gets 
>“winnowed” down to an exclusive focus workplace skills, rather than 
>lifelong learning, and critical literacy. Students are not mere capital to 
>be refined in factory-schools; they do not exist only as workers but also 
>as are family and community members.
>
>Those of us who work as adult educators and researchers need to move beyond 
>the market rhetoric. Ours is a field bent on social justice, and we need to 
>reclaim the moral imperative for lifelong education as a universal right. 
>We need to remember the other roles of our learners, and make them part of 
>our advocacy without resorting to the easy answer of economic need. If we 
>live by the sword, we die by the sword. If we do not speak of education as 
>a human right, as a fundamental part of the principles of a diverse 
>democracy, then who will?
>
>
>:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>Kevin O'Connor
>Doctoral Student, Curriculum & Instruction
>Boston College
>Campion Hall, Room 119C
>oconnohj at bc.edu
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