[AAACE-NLA] Immigration and adult ed

Thu May 24 11:16:38 EDT 2007

I agree, what a lesson we would teach our students if they followed
Andres steps. They will learn everything from persistence through how
our government works. Talk about Functional Context Education.

Russell  L. Smith
Education Supervisor I
Special Education Compliance
We have met the enemy and he is us Pogo (Walt Kelly)

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Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Immigration and adult ed

has any of your students gone to apply for a job at any of these places
where they hire undocumented? Have they been turned down or offered
below minimum wage? If so, they should identify the entity that is
paying below minimum wage and even report the entity to the local
legislative representative. It is up to the gov to sanction bad
employment practices. Also, are your hs students considering college?
Also, a lot of undocumented do yardwork, baby sit, clean houses, etc.
Have your students tried working as gardeners, maids, babysitters, etc?

Andres

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anita Landoll <amlandoll at yahoo.com>
To: National Literacy Advocacy List sponsored by AAACE
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Sent: Wed, 23 May 2007 5:45 am
Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Immigration and adult ed

I am still awaiting an answer to my questions: How do

we provide jobs at a living wage for our citizens? My

high school students in Southside VA are quite

pessimistic about future employment. Yet all around us

are noncitizens working for low wages.

Is it impossible for these employers to provide

appropriate wages, and hire American citizens?

Anita learntoreadnow

--- Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net> wrote:

> Merle--

> 

> One of the beauties of the list is  the space it

> opens up between even  

> angry people in a discussion.  This gives time to

> think.  Nothing is  

> thrown, there is no stomping out.  it is possible to

> create a persona  

> and develop an idea  about  who you are, the words

> don't go away,  

> vanish.

> 

> i am saying this in the context of an unfortunate

> trip to a local  

> hardware store--the owner wouldn't take something

> back when it  was his  

> fault that the order slip had been written up

> incorrectly.   Justice  

> was not served, as so often it isn't.

> 

> The immigrant situation is baffling to me, and I

> have yet to read  

> someone's opinion that strikes me as wholly

> acceptable.

> 

> Andrea

> 

> 

> On May 22, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Merle Ayres wrote:

> 

> >

> > Andrea: My thinking has changed by some on the

> list that think very  

> > narrow. Illegal aliens for sure.  I don't know

> where the term came  

> > from. It is political by nature and its hard to

> take politics out of  

> > the immigration issue. It does give some

> ammunition to buy into this  

> > thinking.

> >  I would rather call these people from Canada or

> Mexico emerging  

> > citizens. If we treat these people like crimminals

> they will act like  

> > them. I was treated in London a few weeks ago like

> anyone else. All  

> > races be it Musllim, Spanish, Croats, Blacks,

> French didnt seem to  

> > have any hangups where I came from. I think our

> problem is engrained  

> > in us Americans that we rise above the rest in the

> world. That gets us  

> > into trouble.

> > Our political system where we take 2 years to

> select a President also  

> > gets people more polarized. I witnessed the same

> thing in Georgia when  

> > Martin Luther King made history. I dont want that

> to happen again but  

> > it sure seems we are headed that direction. Im not

> all down on most  

> > rational people on the list but this lately

> strikes of the same road  

> > our country went down in the 60s. Hope I don't

> offend most people.

> >

> > Merle Ayres

> > 412 8th st. North

> > Humboldt,Iowa 50548

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> >

> > Andrea

> >

> >

> >> From: Andrea Wilder <andreawilder at comcast.net>

> >> Reply-To: National Literacy Advocacy List

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> >> AAACE<aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org>

> >> Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Immigration and adult ed

> >> Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 09:59:31 -0400

> >>

> >> Heide--

> >>

> >> This is SO FULL...the translation of immigration

> issues to classroom

> >> learning.

> >>

> >> Merle--What changed your thinking?  Anything on

> this list?

> >>

> >> Thanks.

> >>

> >> Andrea

> >>

> >>

> >> On May 22, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Andrea Wilder wrote:

> >>

> >> > All--"

> >> > In the heated discussions on this list,  I can

> usually spot just  

> >> from

> >> > the text who is saying what--kind  of like a

> script.  I know some

> >> > 'voices" very well, I am familiar with them,

> can predict  what tone  

> >> the

> >> > posts will have.  It is kind of like an

> orchestra.  So I wondered if

> >> > any of the scripts  had changed, and  if  the

> discussion had altered

> >> > people's thinking, or reinforced people's

> thinking.

> >> >

> >> > How does this work in the classroom?  What

> makes a difference there?

> >> >

> >> > Andrea

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