[AAACE-NLA] Re: AAACE-NLA Digest, Vol 31, Issue 18
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Fri Dec 16 13:17:52 EST 2005
I was told by my supervisor that providing a scribe would not be possible. But, I am still looking for some way to help this man. I was just advised to check the 1990 Disabilities Act, so that is my next step. Thanks. Linda
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You should check to see if special accomodations for his limitations would be
possible. That is can he take the GED test orally? We had a student who had
Muscular Dystrophy, and she was going to have a scribe because she could not use
her hands.
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I have a student in his fifties who is wanting very badly to get his GED.
However, he has gotten a late start - plus has many obstacles to overcome. He
has dyslexia and had a head injury which effects his memory somewhat. He does
great on his tests if it is given orally, but when he has to read the questions,
etc. he doesn't do so well. He is progressing nicely in math and seems to do
much better with numbers than letters. If any of you have any ideas as to how
to help this man and give hime the hope, I feel he deserves, please let me know.
Thanks. Linda
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:04:08 -0500
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Subject: [AAACE-NLA] cost-benefit of AEL/ESL/GED
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Hello all,
I wonder if any of you could lead me to any good studies that show a
cost-benefit analysis of AEL or GED or ESL for adults. Of course, I am
especially interested to see any studies that do show a benefit. I am
currently taking a Microeconomics of Education class and all the
made-up samples of the cost-benefit of AEL or GED show these programs
not to be cost effective. But I am wondering what real data is out
there.
Thanks
Yvonne Lerew
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:31:37 -0500
From: David Rosen <DJRosen at theworld.com>
Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] cost-benefit of AEL/ESL/GED
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Hello Yvonne,
On Dec 12, 2005, at 6:04 PM, you wrote:
> I wonder if any of you could lead me to any good studies that show
> a cost-benefit analysis of AEL or GED or ESL for adults. Of
> course, I am especially interested to see any studies that do show
> a benefit. I am currently taking a Microeconomics of Education
> class and all the made-up samples of the cost-benefit of AEL or GED
> show these programs not to be cost effective. But I am wondering
> what real data is out there.
Cost benefit to whom? The student, the society, community, government?
If you are interested in the earnings benefits to GED holders, then
look at John Tyler's research. Start with
http://wiki.literacytent.org/index.php/GED_Research
or
http://www.ncsall.net/index.php?id=61
If you are looking at return on investment to employers who support
workplace basic skills classes, look at
http://www.nald.ca/fulltext/economic/p1.htm
or
http://www.conferenceboard.ca/education/reports/pdfs/Skills_Profits.pdf
All the best,
David J. Rosen
DJRosen at theworld.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:12:54 -0600 (CST)
From: Barbara Garner <b.garner4 at verizon.net>
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Yvonne, do you mean opportunity cost (money spent or not earned while you're
taking the course) vs the increased income afterwards as a result of increased
income because of higher educational level?
That's what we're supposed to think (if we are rational economic actors) about
when we choose, as individuals, whether to attend school or not.
John Tyler has studied the economic impact of the GED on individuals and much of
his work can be found on the ncsall web site, http://www.ncsall.net/?id=652#tyler
A recent study of the economic impact of the GED on ex-offenders, raised many
questions: http://www.ncsall.net/index.php?id=822
His work doesn't look at the opportunity costs, however.
Or do you mean a more societal look: the cost to society of providing a program
and the resultant benefit to society in terms of less dependence on social
programs, etc., by the attendees?
I'm not familiar with these; can you share information on any of them you have
reviewed?
Barb Garner
Editor, Focus on Basics
From: ylerew at aol.com
Date: Mon Dec 12 17:04:08 CST 2005
To: aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org
Subject: [AAACE-NLA] cost-benefit of AEL/ESL/GED
Hello all,
I wonder if any of you could lead me to any good studies that show a
cost-benefit analysis of AEL or GED or ESL for adults. Of course, I am
especially interested to see any studies that do show a benefit. I am
currently taking a Microeconomics of Education class and all the
made-up samples of the cost-benefit of AEL or GED show these programs
not to be cost effective. But I am wondering what real data is out
there.
Thanks
Yvonne Lerew
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:25:57 -0500
From: David Rosen <DJRosen at theworld.com>
Subject: [AAACE-NLA] National Coalition for Literacy to hold NAAL
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AAACE-NLA Colleagues,
FYI.
David J. Rosen
Adult Literacy Advocate
DJRosen at theworld.com
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WASHINGTON, Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Coalition for
Literacy will
hold a press conference at 1:30 PM EDT on Thursday December 15,
2005 to
discuss the implications of the National Assessment of Adult Literacy
(NAAL)
and what it means for literacy issues and policy in the 21st century.
The NAAL
is a nationally representative, continuing assessment of the English
language literacy skills of American adults conducted by the National
Center
for Education Statistics (NCES).
WHAT: National Coalition for Literacy to discuss the findings
of the
National Assessment of Adult Literacy
WHEN: Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 1:30 PM
WHERE: Whittall Pavilion
Thomas Jefferson Building
Library of Congress, Room
10 First Street SE
Washington, DC
SOURCE National Coalition for Literacy
Web Site: http://www.ncldc.net/news.html
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:25:29 -0500
From: "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>
Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] National Coalition for Literacy to hold NAAL
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This is a naive question, but what does a press conference mean? In other words
will reporters from national newspapers and tv/radio broadcasts be in
attendance?
Daphne
>>> DJRosen at theworld.com 12/13/05 6:25 PM >>>
AAACE-NLA Colleagues,
FYI.
David J. Rosen
Adult Literacy Advocate
DJRosen at theworld.com
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WASHINGTON, Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Coalition for
Literacy will
hold a press conference at 1:30 PM EDT on Thursday December 15,
2005 to
discuss the implications of the National Assessment of Adult Literacy
(NAAL)
and what it means for literacy issues and policy in the 21st century.
The NAAL
is a nationally representative, continuing assessment of the English
language literacy skills of American adults conducted by the National
Center
for Education Statistics (NCES).
WHAT: National Coalition for Literacy to discuss the findings
of the
National Assessment of Adult Literacy
WHEN: Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 1:30 PM
WHERE: Whittall Pavilion
Thomas Jefferson Building
Library of Congress, Room
10 First Street SE
Washington, DC
SOURCE National Coalition for Literacy
Web Site: http://www.ncldc.net/news.html
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:53:04 -0500
From: David Rosen <DJRosen at theworld.com>
Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] National Coalition for Literacy to hold NAAL
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Hi Daphne,
On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Daphne Greenberg wrote:
> This is a naive question, but what does a press conference mean? In
> other words will reporters from national newspapers and tv/radio
> broadcasts be in attendance?
Yes, that's the idea. Given that the elections in Iraq are tomorrow,
however, adult literacy news has a lot to compete with.
David J. Rosen
Adult Literacy Advocate
DJRosen at theworld.com
> Daphne
>
>>>> DJRosen at theworld.com 12/13/05 6:25 PM >>>
> AAACE-NLA Colleagues,
>
> FYI.
>
> David J. Rosen
> Adult Literacy Advocate
> DJRosen at theworld.com
>
> ---------------
> WASHINGTON, Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Coalition for
> Literacy will
> hold a press conference at 1:30 PM EDT on Thursday December 15,
> 2005 to
> discuss the implications of the National Assessment of Adult Literacy
> (NAAL)
> and what it means for literacy issues and policy in the 21st century.
> The NAAL
> is a nationally representative, continuing assessment of the English
> language literacy skills of American adults conducted by the National
> Center
> for Education Statistics (NCES).
>
> WHAT: National Coalition for Literacy to discuss the findings
> of the
> National Assessment of Adult Literacy
>
> WHEN: Thursday, December 15, 2005 at 1:30 PM
>
> WHERE: Whittall Pavilion
> Thomas Jefferson Building
> Library of Congress, Room
> 10 First Street SE
> Washington, DC
>
>
> SOURCE National Coalition for Literacy
> Web Site: http://www.ncldc.net/news.html
>
>
>
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