[AAACE-NLA] Re: AAACE-NLA Digest, Vol 21, Issue 13

Mon Feb 7 12:01:25 EST 2005

To David, Tom, et.al.
Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Program Influences
>
Eleanor Drago-Severson from the Harvard Graduate School of Education
recently wrote a book "Becoming Adult Learners" (Principles and Practices
for Effective Development) published by Teacher College Press. The book
describes her research of students from Polaroid Corp. who were enrolled in
the CEI Adult Diploma Program. The study was designed to test Robert Kegan's
theory of transfomational learning on ABE learners.
In the CEI Adult Diploma Program students must produce a portfolio of work
of sufficient quality to earn credit from the  principal of the high school
awarding the diploma. There are  6 courses of 40 hours each. The
requirements for completing the portfolio projects direct the curriculum and
the teachers' strategies. Each class of 2 hours has the same  structure -
large group or class work  (lecture and discussion), small group or team
work, and individual project work. There are 240 hours of class over a
period of 40 - 60 weeks.The porfolio projects are usually completed outside
of class. An instructor and assistant are in each class.

We use the same teaching methods in the Computer for the Office Training
Program for residents of Worcester Housing Authority . The students have
recently finished 12 weeks of computer and ABE classes and have embarked on
a 4 week internship. The goal is a job. Two people already have jobs, 10
people are doing their internships, and only 1 person has dropped out. The
program is 240 hours of class and 80 hours for the internship.
In our English as a Working Language classes the curriculum and the teaching
strategy is guided by the company needs and the workers' assessments. These
classes are only 60 hours.
For more information I would suggest consulting the book by Ellie
Drago-Severson. NCSALL sells it for a 30% discount at around $18.

Lloyd David, EdD.
President
Creative Workplace Learning
108 Water Street
Watertown, MA 02472
Phone: 617-926-1864
FAX  617-926-1865
lloyd_david at ceilearn.com
www.ceilearn.com
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>    1. FW: [AAACE-NLA] Program Influences (David Collings)
>    2.  Bush budget to cut adult education? (Run Spot Run)
>    3.  Which medical model? (Helen Schlarp)
>    4.  VALUE Leadership Institute: Don't Let Your State Miss Out!
>       (Audrey Riffenburgh)
>    5. RE:  Bush budget to cut adult education? (Bickerton, Robert P)
>    6. RE:  Bush budget to cut adult education? [faked-from]
>       (Brown, Charlene)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:31:04 -0500
> From: "David Collings" <david at collings.com>
> Subject: FW: [AAACE-NLA] Program Influences
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> The following message is courtesy of David Rosen.
>
> David
>
> David Collings
> AAACE-NLA Moderator
> david at collings.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Rosen [mailto:djrosen at comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:40 PM
> To: National Literacy Advocacy List sponsored by AAACE
> Subject: Re: [AAACE-NLA] Program Influences
>
> Tom and other AAACE-NLA Colleagues,
>
> You have asked an interesting question, Tom.  I hope lots of people will
> respond, and that you will summarize and post the results.
>
> Here's my response:
>
> First, before ranking, let's include some other possible influences.
> For example:
>
> * Theory -- I have seen some teachers, administrators and boards very much
> influenced by a theory of how adults learn or how adults should be taught
> (Freire and Knowles, among others, for examples)
>
> * Teachers' own experiences as students (many teachers may teach as they
> were taught in K-12 and college)
>
> * Teachers' experiences as K-12 teachers (since our field is largely
> part-time, and large numbers of teachers have taught in or currently teach
> in K-12, this may influence program practices)
>
> * Fluctuations in the local economy (I have seen this have a big impact on
> workplace education)
>
> * Employers' needs
>
> * Workers' needs as interpreted by organized labor
>
> For publicly-funded programs  I would rank these from most-to-least
> influential as follows:
>
> 1) funders' requirements
> 2) needs of students (as interpreted by practitioners)
> 3) teachers' own experiences as students in K-12 and college
> 4) publishers' materials
> 5) experience as a teacher (particularly for more seasoned teachers, and
for
> some this would include experience as a K-12 or higher education teacher)
> 6) professional development
> 7) community needs assessments
> 8) U.S. Government publications and web sites
> 9) Research studies
>
> I realized, as I was ranking these, that for some kinds of programs, (for
> example, some community-based, volunteer, and family literacy programs )
> theory, community needs assessments, and professional development might be
> in the top three or four influences. I would look at this differently for
> workplace literacy programs, where employers and sometimes organized labor
> are an important influence. So it would be useful, when people answer this
> question, to understand their frame of reference -- the kind(s) of
programs
> they are familiar with and are referring to.  My reference, as I ranked
> these, was publicly-funded programs sponsored by schools, community
> colleges, corrections, and some library, community-based and volunteer
> organizations, in several states.
>
> David J. Rosen
> djrosen at comcast.net
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Thomas Sticht wrote:
>
> > Aaace-NLA Colleagues: Sometimes programs are influenced more by some
> > factors than others.
> >
> > Do you think your programs or programs that you know about are
> > influenced more by requirements by the funder(s), research studies,
> > publisher's materials, community needs assessments, U. S. Government
> > publications, needs of students, or professional development. How
> > would you rank these from most influential to least?
> >
> > How do you think these factors influence your program's outreach
> > (recruitment), retention, teaching, student learning, and other
> > outcomes?
> >
> > Who do you think influences your classroom practices more, publishers
> > or researchers?
> >
> > Maybe by better understanding what factors influence programs to what
> > extent we can target resources better. You can reply to me off the
> > list or on as the replies may be of interest to others, too.
> >
> >
> > Tom Sticht
> > Tsticht at aznet.net
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 06:50:20 -0800 (PST)
> From: Run Spot Run <runspotrun99 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [AAACE-NLA] Bush budget to cut adult education?
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> I hope this is not true, but I have heard that the
> Bush budget proposal that will be released tomorrow
> will propose to cut funding for the adult education
> program approximately in half.  Even Start, as before,
> would be eliminated.
>
> According to people at the Labor Department, the
> budget will include a new proposal that would let
> governors obtain a "waiver" to use their adult
> education and vocational rehabilitation money for job
> training.  In other words, a new block grant proposal.
>
> I don't know when the Bush budget comes out on Monday.
>  Here are some sites to look at throughout the day:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/
>
> http://www.ed.gov
>
> http://www.dol.gov/
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 14:34:42 -0500
> From: "Helen Schlarp" <hschlarp at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [AAACE-NLA] Which medical model?
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> Perhaps what concerns me most about the use of the scientific model in any
> field is the complete faith that some put in it. In medicine, for example,
a
> scientific model works well if we know that condition A is caused by B and
> that intervention C will create condition D, health. There are many
> instances where this formula works, and the quality of our lives is better
> as a result. But there are so many cases where this model does not work.
And
> when the model does not work, the patient often ends up being blamed,
> marginalized, not believed, given inappropriate treatments, or being
> shunned.
>
> When doctors have unconditional faith in medicine as a science, they do no
t
> believe patients who describe things that are not in their medical books;
> they cannot cope with seeing patients they cannot cure. Yet, there are
known
> diseases for which there is no known cause. Some of these diseases have
> recently been "validated" as a result of the human genome project's
finding
> their genetic basis. There are also many disease for which there is no
known
> cure; and there are cures that cannot be explained.
>
> A patient who has a rare disorder or a disorder that manifests itself in
an
> unusual manner is served well by a physician who practices medicine as
both
> a sciene and an art. Such physicians see things that others do not. They
> imagine interventions that others would not entertain.
>
> Many of us learned in schools, so the practices being used did work for
some
> and to some degree. But the adults we work with did not learn in school.
In
> that way, I think they are more like those with a rare disorder. (Please
do
> not take this to mean that I think they have a disease. This is just an
> analogy.)
>
> My fear is that the reliance on a scientific  model is not likely to
produce
> results that apply well to the adults we serve. Then, to the extent that
we
> invest in this model, when "proven" approaches do not work with our
adults,
> they will once again be blamed, marginalized, not believed, given
> inappropriate interventions, or be shunned.
>
> I believe that our students are more the exceptions than the rule. Even if
> scientific methodology provides evidence of clear educational cases where
> condition A is caused by B and with intervention C will create condition
D,
> learning, my guess is that the adults we work with will not be well served
> by this approach. They will most likely be more like the patients whose
> conditions require practitioners who draw from both the sciene and the art
> of their practice.
>
> hs
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:13:34 -0700
> From: "Audrey Riffenburgh" <ar at plainlanguageworks.com>
> Subject: [AAACE-NLA] VALUE Leadership Institute: Don't Let Your State
> Miss Out!
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> Greetings:
>
>
>
> Did you know adult learner leaders from your state have an incredible
> opportunity to develop their leadership skills and show Congress how
> important your work is? On March 8-10, 2005 in Washington, DC VALUE (Voice
> for Adult Literacy United for Education), the only national adult literacy
> student organization founded and run by adult learners, will hold its 4th
> biannual National Adult Learner Leadership Institute.
>
>
>
> Adult learner leaders from around the country will meet for civics
education
> and leadership training. This will equip them to better serve in your
> program and to participate in our government while raising awareness of
> adult literacy. It will also give your program and your state a great
chance
> for publicity.
>
>
>
> Adult learners will also go to the "Hill" and visit with their
> representatives in the House and the Senate. Representatives will learn
> about adult literacy and the need for your services and adult learners
will
> learn about participating in government. Representatives will be invited
to
> join adult learners for photographs that will be posted on a website for
> your use in PR.
>
>
>
> VALUE is zeroing in on members of the Education and Appropriations
> Committees in both the House and the Senate. So if one of your
> representatives serves on one of these committees, it will be critical for
> you to have an adult learner leader there to represent adult literacy/ABE
in
> your state!
>
>
>
> If we don't have learners from every state, our field looks weak. If your
> representatives show up and no one from your state is there, that sends a
> message to your representatives about how active adult literacy/ABE is in
> your state. If we have a strong showing, we will be a force to be heard!
Let's
> help our field, adult learners, and our representatives in Washington
learn
> and grow!
>
>
>
> To learn more, go to VALUE's website at http://www.valueusa.org.
>
>
>
> Audrey Riffenburgh, M.A., Health Literacy & Plain Language Specialist
>
> Former Adult Literacy Program Manager and ProLiteracy Worldwide staffer
>
> Based in  Albuquerque, New Mexico
>
> Phone: (505) 345-1107
> E-mail: ar at plainlanguageworks.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:05:03 -0500
> From: "Bickerton, Robert P" <RBickerton at doe.mass.edu>
> Subject: RE: [AAACE-NLA] Bush budget to cut adult education?
> To: "'Run Spot Run '" <runspotrun99 at yahoo.com>,
> "'aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org '"
> <aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org>
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>  We're working to stay on top of these issues and will share any concrete
> info we can obtain on Monday -- and thereafter.  I hope that all of our
> colleagues are ready to roll up their sleeves for some serious advocacy --
> if the rumors are true, we will have our work cut out for us -- our
students
> deserve nothing less and actually, a whole bunch more.
>
> take care,
> bob bickerton, MA director of adult ed & NCSDAE chair
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Run Spot Run
> To: aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org
> Sent: 2/6/2005 9:50 AM
> Subject: [AAACE-NLA] Bush budget to cut adult education?
>
> I hope this is not true, but I have heard that the
> Bush budget proposal that will be released tomorrow
> will propose to cut funding for the adult education
> program approximately in half.  Even Start, as before,
> would be eliminated.
>
> According to people at the Labor Department, the
> budget will include a new proposal that would let
> governors obtain a "waiver" to use their adult
> education and vocational rehabilitation money for job
> training.  In other words, a new block grant proposal.
>
> I don't know when the Bush budget comes out on Monday.
>  Here are some sites to look at throughout the day:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/
>
> http://www.ed.gov
>
> http://www.dol.gov/
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 09:51:28 -0500
> From: "Brown, Charlene" <cbrown5 at jefferson.k12.ky.us>
> Subject: RE: [AAACE-NLA] Bush budget to cut adult education?
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> I certainly hope that you are wrong.  If they think Social Security is in
a
> pickle now, wait until our country has all these folks without the skills
to
> have a job making enough to contribute to the funds and to the tax mill in
> general are needing food, clothing and shelter!
>
> Last year, in Kentucky 83% of those taking the GED test reported incomes
> less than $10,000.  Only 23.6% were employed full time, with 9.1 % being
> employed part-time.  19.1% were students.  83 % reported taking the GED
for
> reasons related to employment.  These folks are trying and many are
> succeeding.
>
> Honestly, if my die hard Republican father were still living, he would be
> voting Democratic!  To help you understand why I use this illustration, my
> father was such a staunch Republican that the day after I turned 18, he
> urged me to register as a Democrat so that I could vote for the weakest
> Democratic candidate in the primary.  "That way, our guy (Republican) will
> have the best shot at winning the real election."  Now, if a man who is
that
> devout a Republican would change party affiliations. . .
>
> Charlene Brown,
> ABE Coordinator
> Jefferson County Public Schools
> Adult and Continuing Education
> Jacob Annex
> 3670 Wheeler Avenue
> Louisville, KY  40215
> 502-485-3797
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Run Spot Run [mailto:runspotrun99 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:50 AM
> To: aaace-nla at lists.literacytent.org
> Subject: [AAACE-NLA] Bush budget to cut adult education? [faked-from]
>
> I hope this is not true, but I have heard that the
> Bush budget proposal that will be released tomorrow
> will propose to cut funding for the adult education
> program approximately in half.  Even Start, as before,
> would be eliminated.
>
> According to people at the Labor Department, the
> budget will include a new proposal that would let
> governors obtain a "waiver" to use their adult
> education and vocational rehabilitation money for job
> training.  In other words, a new block grant proposal.
>
> I don't know when the Bush budget comes out on Monday.
>  Here are some sites to look at throughout the day:
>
> http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/
>
> http://www.ed.gov
>
> http://www.dol.gov/
>
>
>
>
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