[AAACE-NLA]servers, hosts, functions

AndresMuro@aol.com AndresMuro at aol.com
Fri May 16 18:58:54 EDT 2003


Janet, et al:

I think that the thing that validated the NIFL groups was not just their existence, but the active participation of a lot of us. Hence, as you suggest, we can all agree to quit participating and shift to a different list-serve. That is one possibility. I'm not sure of what impact it will have on NIFL, but a boycott by participants may send some kind of a message. 

On the other hand, we can keep posting whatever we want to, but simply misspellign words or using codes. We can engage in some sort of a campaign of doing this, just to prove that censorship may not word. Today, I misspelled all the words in the blocked list, and I sent a message to the NIFL groups. Since my misspelled words were not filtered, they all got posted. We can also say things like "armed conflict in babylon", "seek change", "share your perspectives", "encourage members of the house and senate" etc. 

Beyond the above, I am sure that what they are doing is illegal, like others have suggested. I wonder if there are organizations such as the ACLU that may consider this something worth fighting against.

Andres



In a message dated 5/16/2003 4:28:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at Brown.edu> writes:

>Colleagues,
>
>I was writing to a couple of people off list , thinking of Audrey 
>Lourde's work (The Master's Tools Will Never
>   Dismantle the Master's House) and am increasingly wondering about
>a) my hesitancy to jeopardize NIFL
>and
>b) thoughts that NIFL is changing regardless of what we do or don't do
>and
>c) wondering how/if other lists might want to migrate to different servers.
>
>While NIFL has provided valuable resources to the field for many 
>years, many of us now believe that this focus is shifting away from 
>the needs and concerns of adult literacy and towards the vortex of 
>research driven practice of a very limited kind.  Rather than argue 
>those points again and again, I wonder if those NIFL moderators who 
>also might subscribe to this list have considered what, if anything , 
>they and those on their lists might do in order to maintain open 
>conversations.
>
>Of course, there are far larger questions than this (where to go to 
>talk) that go begging.  I wonder, though, if and how we have the 
>collective will and ability to create places through which to 
>continue to converse, or do we accept that *this* list is OK, but 
>wonder how others might be supported in critical dialogue?
>
>And what do we consider doing to support colleagues at NIFL who 
>continue to believe that adult literacy and education are critically 
>important?  How do we support the work itself?  How/do we tolerate 
>the suppression of ideas?  Do we assume, well, the ESL list will just 
>talk about methods, the pov-race-lit list will use coded messages?  I 
>understand the advocacy/information distinction; I'm struggling now 
>with the reflection/action tension.
>
>Janet Isserlis
>
>
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